The first Sod This podcast! Interview with Hadi Hariri

by Oliver Sturm Email

Sod This goes live! After much thought, preparation and general fucking around we finally did it! Congratulate us, we need it.

To those of you who haven’t been introduced properly to the podcast elsewhere, let us introduce ourselves. This is us:

Gary Oliver

As you can see from these pictures, we are

  • not equally sized

  • lazy

  • extremely handsome

Sod This is our podcast. It is our podcast. It is our podcast. It’s our… hm, you get the idea. We’ll spend a good deal of time talking about things that are on our minds. Since we do what we do, we’re interested in computers, programming, technology in general, … and a hell of a lot of other things. We’ll talk about those things and, well, things. Yeah!

Seriously, it’s going to be seriously serious. Sometimes at least. It’s not a comedy show. Not most of the time at least. We just hope it’s fun and maybe interesting to a few other people!

As part of our jobs with DevExpress, we travel quite a bit, go to speak at conferences, and meet a lot of people. So it seemed kind of natural for us to talk to these people we meet, and for the first podcast we started with Hadi Hariri at the recent Basta! conference in Germany. He doesn’t really look as good as in the picture, btw. Anyway, we talked to him about airports in fields and things. Seriously, he’s a nice guy and he was friendly enough to serve as a guinea pig for our amateur attempts at recording. Thanks, Hadi!

You can find Hadi’s blog here. I’m sure he’ll appreciate some readers. Some more readers, I mean, of course. Hm, better stop right here! :-)

So without further ado, here it is now: SodThisEpisode1.mp3 (right-click and save to download the file instead of playing it in the browser)

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Links from the show:

Here’s the link to the (German) Clean Code Developer page: clean-code-developer.de

And the one to the book: Clean Code: A Handbook of Agile Software Craftsmanship

A possible connection I stumbled upon just recently – does anyone know if the German CCD thing is associated somehow with the more international Software Craftsmanship movement? For some reason those latter guys sound a bit like a religion to me…

15 comments

I liked your first podcast. I look forward to more.
03/14/09 @ 17:07
I´d have enjoyed the podcast even more, if you´d use a player where I can jump and fast forward.
03/14/09 @ 23:06
Hey Ralf,

Yeah, I'm not sure we're going to stay with this player... although I did like it for a number of reasons -- most alternatives are at least as weird in some ways. Plus, I wasn't assuming that most people would use the web page player for anything more than having a quick listen before they download the file, sync it to their ipods or something.

Anyway, feedback much appreciated. Apparently we'll have to look out for a better player.
03/14/09 @ 23:14
Ah, finally :-) I got to the point where you´re talking about Clean Code Developer:

Just to explain, why we chose the sequence of colors you mentioned: it´s the colors of the rainbow from red to blue. White then is the last "grade" because it´s made up of all colors before it. And black is the first "grade" because it´s devoid of all light/color.

One word about why we set up the "grades" at all: it´s to slice the whole set of principles, rules, and practices into digestable chunks. That way whoever is interested in the Clean Code Developer value system can manage to progress through more easily.

The CCD building blocks are packaged into the "grades" in a way so a developer can start by himself and then slowly "move up" to building blocks where there is some negotiation necessary within his team: Anybody can try to live by the DRY principle. But doing CI is a team effort.

Why CCD just in German right now? It´s just because we´re two German guys who started it. And we wanted to first gather some feedback from the community closest to us. But ultimately we´ll move CCD to the international level and translate the wiki to English. Stay tuned :-)

Thx for discussing CCD in Sud This!
03/14/09 @ 23:34
Nice work. It's quite nice to hear that other people are as ambivalent about Silverlight as I am.

Phil
03/15/09 @ 13:48
I thought a podcast is something that can get aggregated and put on an iPod.
Guys, if you want to do podcasting make them ... podcasts, not played only with online player gizmo. In my case I never listen podcasts on my workstation - instead I listen them when I am cycling or driving.
Ah, and make them a bit louder.
Cheers
03/16/09 @ 07:47
Hi Miha,

Ahem... what are you talking about? There's a file to download and a feed to subscribe to (top of the page) in an RSS reader or in iTunes. We'll add the feed to iTunes online in a little while, but meanwhile you can load the thing into as many iPods as you want.
03/16/09 @ 07:58
Oops, right, you can download it. The player icon distracted me :-)
Still waiting for iTunes though...and perhaps loudness enhancement.
03/16/09 @ 08:35
Miha,

Re the loudness issue, we'll take a look at that thanks. And to think, most people spend their time trying to shut me up :-)
03/16/09 @ 09:51
Hehe.
Here is a technical tip: try not to speak more than one at the time - it is hard to understand.

Feedback about the web (nit picking):
- why am I not remembered? I promise I'll make better comments!
- sometimes web player just keeps playing:can't close it
- comments window doesn't support Shift+cursor (firefox)
- antispam test is somewhat static, I even learned the 6*7 result :-)

I guess overall is a good podcasting start.
03/16/09 @ 10:38
Miha - you can already subscribe to the feed manually in iTunes, only it's not in their podcast catalogue.
03/16/09 @ 10:38
Comment from: Miha
Indeed there is an option under Advanced (why is that advanced?) where one can paste RSS feed.
LOL, your podcast is marked with a red explicit sign. At least somebody is speaking normally.
03/16/09 @ 12:44
Miha - yeah, since we decided not to censor the recordings, I marked it as adult in the iTunes properties, which are already in the feed.
03/16/09 @ 18:25
Thanks for your first podcast - that is the first one that allows me to code and listen to something (someone) that is nicer than office background noise. ;-)

Waiting for more!

04/21/09 @ 11:37
Great PodCast, now on my iTunes list to download each week.

It's enjoyable to listen to the friendly banter.

Keep up the good work.
04/24/09 @ 13:21

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